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PostSubject: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyFri 22 Jan 2010, 11:30 pm

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At approximately 50 minutes into an audio interview with Walter Bowart, the interviewer briefly mentions how Jim Jones used the Mendocino State Mental Hospital in Ukiah, California for cult recruitment, as a "test center" as well as a staff training ground, with all of the hospitals test subjects ultimately turned over to the People's Temple.

Link to Audio Interview of Water Bowart (MP3 download):
http://bit.ly/7hZf1q

I have also been told that Jones was given children as wards of the court, mental patients, elderly and destitute people in Ukiah and in San Francisco with the complicity of courts and state institutions. Jones confiscated their incomes and savings and had complete control over them. These people were then forced to go to People's Temple in Guyana. The Black adults arrived bound and gagged at the airport on the Pan Am planes and were never seen outside the compound after that, although they were the majority of the population of Jonestown and the dead.

This sort of access would require high level government collaboration.


Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?
by Michael Meiers (1988)
http://www.amazon.com/Was-Jonestown-CIA-Medical-Experiment/dp/0889460132/

A work of investigative journalism that presents the theory that the
Central Intelligence Agency employed the Reverend Jim Jones to
administer a pharmaceutical field test in mind control and ethnic
weaponry to a large test group, namely the membership of the Peoples
Temple. The text proposes that Dr. Laurence Layton (former Chief of the
U.S. Army's Chemical and Biological Warfare Division) cultured the AIDS
virus to be tested and deployed in a CIA-backed experiment in
Jonestown, Guyana.

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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyMon 01 Feb 2010, 7:14 pm

Found these today and thought both were of interest. I believe the second clips is an excerpt from Evidence of Revision.

John Judge



What happened at Jonestown: Joseph Holsinger: Leagl Aid To Congress Leo Ryan
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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyWed 03 Feb 2010, 7:09 pm

ScoutsHonor wrote:

Do we have any information about why Jim Jones killed himself also? I'm thinking he may have been suffering severe remorse, after the fact.. Very sad.

Well, here's the thing. What happened to all the money and assets accumulated by the people's temple?

There might be an answer in there somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyWed 03 Feb 2010, 10:50 pm

deadprecedent wrote:
ScoutsHonor wrote:

Do we have any information about why Jim Jones killed himself also? I'm thinking he may have been suffering severe remorse, after the fact.. Very sad.

Well, here's the thing. What happened to all the money and assets accumulated by the people's temple?

There might be an answer in there somewhere.
I think John Judge deals with those issues in the video posted above.

I believe there is photographic evidence to support that supposed body of Jim Jones was not Jones, for the body did not have a prominent tatoo on its belly. Further, there are claims that Jones frequently used doubles. So who knows what happened to Jones

Further, I recall hearing that multiple millions were emptied out of a bank account the next day. But I do not recall the details. That may also be in the same Judge video tape, or perhaps in his article that he wrote, which I think is also linked to here.

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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyWed 03 Feb 2010, 10:58 pm

deadprecedent wrote:
ScoutsHonor wrote:

Do we have any information about why Jim Jones killed himself also? I'm thinking he may have been suffering severe remorse, after the fact.. Very sad.

Well, here's the thing. What happened to all the money and assets accumulated by the people's temple?

There might be an answer in there somewhere.

Another identity, and off to distant shores?

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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyThu 04 Feb 2010, 11:42 am

Probably at Guantanamo running the program.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyThu 04 Feb 2010, 12:47 pm

ramallamamama wrote:
Probably at Guantanamo running the program.


What a Face

I wouldn't bet against it. Cool
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Interesting. The sound went south at around 25:30. The footage from the 'encounter' groups was disturbing. It appears that much of the Jonestown stuff was disinfo from what I have learned from this thread.

How do people fall for this messiah crap?
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Can you say, "American Idol"?

It's everywhere, and virtually every religious doctrine warns us against Idolatry.

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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyFri 20 Aug 2010, 6:52 pm

Quote :
http://www.fonebone.net/Jonestown/

Did anyone back this up?
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Refresh my memory, what was post at fonebone? I may have it.

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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyMon 23 Aug 2010, 5:00 am

C1 wrote:
Refresh my memory, what was post at fonebone? I may have it.

Yes, that one.
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C1 wrote:
Refresh my memory, what was post at fonebone? I may have it.

Yes, that one.
Which one? You're going to have to refresh my memory Smile

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Michael Meiers ~ Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?
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PostSubject: Re: Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?   Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? - Page 2 EmptyMon 30 Aug 2010, 3:27 pm

I found it at:

Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?
by Michael Meiers (1988)
http://www.amazon.com/Was-Jonestown-CIA-Medical-Experiment/dp/0889460132/

Geesh, $159.95.
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incognito wrote:
Michael Meiers ~ Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?

Found it & Sent!

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