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PostSubject: Re: Krishnamurti   Tue 19 Jun 2012, 12:48 am

Ben Steigmann wrote:
He is actually attacking psychological conditioning, and attempting to incite a state aside from that conditioning. As on who has gone through this, perhaps the following log is of relevance: http://www.scribd.com/doc/91194346/Start-of-log-–-week-of-11-1-2011-11-8-2011
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Upon initial perusal, this caught my eye:

"What appears to be taking place now is a simultaneous total immersion and liberation from everything
around me and within and without me."


I'd echo that comment, as I've been going thru the same.

PS. Who were you referring to when you used the word "He" in your post?

PPS. I guess the "Good Will Hunting" recruitment movie with Matt Damon missed-out on recruiting you. That's what the movie was, a recruitment vehicle to secure any lost genius in society, to wrap them up before the next stage was to begin, so they wouldn't be available to the public.

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PostSubject: Re: Krishnamurti   Tue 19 Jun 2012, 8:22 pm

Another look into the downloaded document and I would strongly urge that you take another look at this figure, “Krishnamurti”, who I have seen you reference previously. If you want to discuss, then we should start a separate thread. But I urge you to look into his background, his upbringing, and specifically his early years under the tutolage of the top brass in the Thesophical Society.

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PostSubject: Krishnamurti   Wed 20 Jun 2012, 2:39 am

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Another look into the downloaded document and I would strongly urge that you take another look at this figure, “Krishnamurti”, who I have seen you reference previously. If you want to discuss, then we should start a separate thread. But I urge you to look into his background, his upbringing, and specifically his early years under the tutolage of the top brass in the Thesophical Society.

I am quite aware of that. But he rejected that. And his significance is in the fact that his words deal with independently verifiable facts (facts to be verified in the laboratory of the nervous system).
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PostSubject: Re: Krishnamurti   Wed 20 Jun 2012, 2:06 pm

Upon initial inspection, it certainly has the fingerprints of an MKUltra-type victim, with high-ranking theosophist Charles Webster Leadbeater, who was accused of peodophelia, taking a special interest in Krishnamurti when a boy. Sexual abuse in young children has been a long established technique for spliting the brain into controllable alters. The few things I've read and heard from Krishnamurti, it appears to me he's preparing his followers for an elite designed future. I'd have to conduct more research in order to provide more concrete examples, but I'm disturbed about his background and by the limited amount of material I've seen from him.


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PostSubject: Re: Krishnamurti   Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:32 pm

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Upon initial inspection, it certainly has the fingerprints of an MKUltra-type victim, with high-ranking theosophist Charles Webster Leadbeater, who was accused of peodophelia, taking a special interest in Krishnamurti when a boy. Sexual abuse in young children has been a long established technique for spliting the brain into controllable alters. The few things I've read and heard from Krishnamurti, it appears to me he's preparing his followers for an elite designed future. I'd have to conduct more research in order to provide more concrete examples, but I'm disturbed about his background and by the limited amount of material I've seen from him.


This speech gives a good indication of his position, and his break with the Theosophical society: http://bernie.cncfamily.com/k_pathless.htm

His insights, if applied, can help one enter into a state of freedom above the normal field of consciousness. The most direct approach is in his text "Freedom from the Known": http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/freedom-from-the-known

I also like his text "The First and Last Freedom" (there is a forward by Aldous Huxley, and you may cast suspicion on this, however, just because some of the elite have interest in some of these things does not mean that they are invalid): http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/the-first-and-last-freedom

and in particular, I like his dialogue with the physicist David Bohm entitled "The Ending of Time": http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/the-ending-of-time/

There is a synthesis between his work, that of David Bohm, and that of Rupert Sheldrake, that I address here: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1849EUPTQS50Y/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx331MZOPIFPR1D&cdMsgNo=84&cdPage=9&asin=B006L9G9I6&store=digital-text&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx39F6KPSBPWXSL&cdMsgID=Mx25LWHHYNY6VOC#Mx25LWHHYNY6VOC
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PostSubject: Re: Krishnamurti   Tue 17 Jul 2012, 2:31 pm

I think you'll find that his material relates to your thread about Godel and Cantor.
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