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PostSubject: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Tue 31 Jan 2012, 4:18 am

I will post more material later. I am sending this out to others. But for now, I would just like to note that George Hunt sent me the documentation corroborating his presentation concerning Edmond de Rothschild's and Maurice Strong's conference prior to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit, along with a signed affidavit attesting to it's veracity, proving that World Government, mass depopulation, and world resource control, are the objectives of these people. First, for those who haven't seen the video, it is below:


The documents are as follows:







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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Fri 03 Feb 2012, 12:51 am

Don't trust George Hunt. To me, he's just running a containment vector, as I view this material as so high level and propogated by COINTEL conspiracy theorists.

I continue to find the science to be the most reputable evidence of the system's goals, as the science is extremely well documented and can be substantiated by highly credible scientists with no hearsay ot truth debate. This is why the science is never ever exposed or discussed by those that are running containment vectors, as it stands on its own.

By the way, Boulder is full of spooks.

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Fri 03 Feb 2012, 1:09 am

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Don't trust George Hunt. To me, he's just running a containment vector, as I view this material as so high level and propogated by COINTEL conspiracy theorists.

I continue to find the science to be the most reputable evidence of the system's goals, as the science is extremely well documented and can be substantiated by highly credible scientists with no hearsay ot truth debate. This is why the science is never ever exposed or discussed by those that are running containment vectors, as it stands on its own.

By the way, Boulder is full of spooks.

Could you please elaborate? In what way do you think he's running a containment vector? Do you think it's just because he has been interviewed by others who distort information with noise? I have referred him, by the way, to people who I have corresponded with who I find do not distort information with noise. See the following: http://www.gnosticmedia.com/george-hunt-interview-say-what-is-unced-the-elite-and-the-environmental-movement-135/


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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Fri 03 Feb 2012, 1:21 am

I agree with elements of what you are saying, however, and will put forth an essay incorporating this, giving my understanding, and giving a broader context.
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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Wed 08 Feb 2012, 12:39 am

He's here to produce information that steers people away from the roots of the issues, and to provide information that can be considered wacky or unbelieveable by the masses.

Notice how people are never ever steered towared the science behind the system, and the reputable and highly regarded scientists and institutions who produced such science? They can't be directed to this information, because it is too credible, believeable, and ultimately proveable.

There is no one in the COINTEL movement that recommends the plethora of information put out by these credible sources. Further, there is no one who is trying to explain these findings to the common man in a manner that the common man can understand.

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Wed 08 Feb 2012, 7:25 pm

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He's here to produce information that steers people away from the roots of the issues, and to provide information that can be considered wacky or unbelieveable by the masses.

Notice how people are never ever steered towared the science behind the system, and the reputable and highly regarded scientists and institutions who produced such science? They can't be directed to this information, because it is too credible, believeable, and ultimately proveable.

There is no one in the COINTEL movement that recommends the plethora of information put out by these credible sources. Further, there is no one who is trying to explain these findings to the common man in a manner that the common man can understand.

Perhaps, and it may be that your approach is more relevant. I have written an essay in the comments section of Jan's show giving background information, that pertains to the "elite" perspective on all this. I have tried to get to core issues in that respect, so some of it might be very radical to many. Nevertheless, it reflects my current understanding, and so I'd appreciate it if you could read it, and suggest areas for further exploration: http://www.gnosticmedia.com/george-hunt-interview-say-what-is-unced-the-elite-and-the-environmental-movement-135/#comment-2827
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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Sat 11 Feb 2012, 12:09 am

Okay, I'll read it and add some comments when I can.... sorry, I'm not as engaged as I once was so please be patient. In the mean time, would you mind posting your comments here, so that all can reference them locally.

Further, what I believe is much more relevant now is not that the elite seek population control, but the methods that they seek to secure such control. We're in the early phases of the introduction of a complex society (implementing Complexity Theory as the science behind the technique), where power laws will ensure that those "not fit" will not survive. Understanding how the science works, and how humanity can avoid the traps are, to me, incredibly valuable information.

By the way, may I suggest just one area of interest that my be of value and be of interest to you.... the supposed assassination of Moritz Schlick by a "deranged student" in 1936. What was Schick talking about that was so threatening to the elite, and the way they want the public to think? I admit I don't have the answers as I write this, but I think there is value in this research. A essay on this I think would be of significant value.

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Sat 11 Feb 2012, 1:06 am

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Okay, I'll read it and add some comments when I can.... sorry, I'm not as engaged as I once was so please be patient. In the mean time, would you mind posting your comments here, so that all can reference them locally.

Further, what I believe is much more relevant now is not that the elite seek population control, but the methods that they seek to secure such control. We're in the early phases of the introduction of a complex society (implementing Complexity Theory as the science behind the technique), where power laws will ensure that those "not fit" will not survive. Understanding how the science works, and how humanity can avoid the traps are, to me, incredibly valuable information.

By the way, may I suggest just one area of interest that my be of value and be of interest to you.... the supposed assassination of Moritz Schlick by a "deranged student" in 1936. What was Schick talking about that was so threatening to the elite, and the way they want the public to think? I admit I don't have the answers as I write this, but I think there is value in this research. A essay on this I think would be of significant value.

What text by Schlick do you recommend looking into?
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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Tue 14 Feb 2012, 12:21 am

He was part of the Austrian Circle, with Kurt Godel (at least I think that was the name of the group). He was an advocate for rendering all science that was not empiricle as sophistry. Hence, his teachings were a huge threat to what the establishment was trying to create. Check out his Wiki page, as I forget the names of his works, but a summary is there.

By no means am I trying to push you down this road, but what I'm trying to show is that the material that is NOT discussed is so much more informative and valuable than all the material populating COINTEL type outlets and fronts. I've continually found that the greatest revelations come from independent research, following my own hunches, and staying away from all the COINTEL material already out there, as they're trying to waste your time and send us on wild goose chases.

We're not taught about Schlick in school, his work is all but buried. Why? And what would happen if his work were take hold again?

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Sun 19 Feb 2012, 8:11 pm

Bliss, the other thing that Hunt does not discuss, at least I don't recall, but it's been along time since I researched him, is "HOW" this population control is to take place? What are the techniques that are to be used, and how can we expose and combat them?

This deserves its own thread, and requires some background understanding of "complexity", which we've briefly discussed here.

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Thu 17 May 2012, 6:56 pm

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Bliss, the other thing that Hunt does not discuss, at least I don't recall, but it's been along time since I researched him, is "HOW" this population control is to take place? What are the techniques that are to be used, and how can we expose and combat them?

This deserves its own thread, and requires some background understanding of "complexity", which we've briefly discussed here.

Bioweapons. already, much of our food and water is poison, modern "medicine" is the third leading cause of death, etc., but bioweapons are what is discussed in meetings pertaining to this.
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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Mon 21 May 2012, 11:08 pm

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Bliss, the other thing that Hunt does not discuss, at least I don't recall, but it's been along time since I researched him, is "HOW" this population control is to take place? What are the techniques that are to be used, and how can we expose and combat them?

This deserves its own thread, and requires some background understanding of "complexity", which we've briefly discussed here.

Bioweapons. already, much of our food and water is poison, modern "medicine" is the third leading cause of death, etc., but bioweapons are what is discussed in meetings pertaining to this.
Bliss, you changed your username?

Also, I agree that all aspects of the Simulacrum are weaponized, and I would like to include in this conversation the weaponization of computer networks & software systems that are internationally well recognized; psywar across ALL media (Hollywood, TV networks, publishers), major industries and institutions (such as academia); the total corruption of science (as a replacement for all metaphysical explorations).

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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Tue 22 May 2012, 3:23 am

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Bliss, the other thing that Hunt does not discuss, at least I don't recall, but it's been along time since I researched him, is "HOW" this population control is to take place? What are the techniques that are to be used, and how can we expose and combat them?

This deserves its own thread, and requires some background understanding of "complexity", which we've briefly discussed here.

Bioweapons. already, much of our food and water is poison, modern "medicine" is the third leading cause of death, etc., but bioweapons are what is discussed in meetings pertaining to this.
Bliss, you changed your username?

Also, I agree that all aspects of the Simulacrum are weaponized, and I would like to include in this conversation the weaponization of computer networks & software systems that are internationally well recognized; psywar across ALL media (Hollywood, TV networks, publishers), major industries and institutions (such as academia); the total corruption of science (as a replacement for all metaphysical explorations).

And in terms of metaphysical explorations, dangerous means of using psychedelic drugs have been promoted to dissipate the energy of those with a creative spark who might act in ways to change this. A correspondent of mine, Jan Irvin, has delved into this: http://www.gnosticmedia.com/magic-mushrooms-and-the-psychedelic-revolution-beginning-a-new-history-or-the-secret-history-of-magic-mushrooms-by-jan-irvin-144-2/
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PostSubject: Re: Corroboration of a World Government and depopulation agenda   Wed 23 May 2012, 5:05 pm

Yes, the techniques are vast.

PS. In my view, Jan Irvin, George Hunt are system messengers, and I simply don't listen to them. I prefer to focus either on the architects of this system, or those that critique the architects on their level. I've found over and over again that THIS is the ONLY way to gain clarity, and prevent depression.

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