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PostSubject: PAIN.......   Wed 18 May 2011, 7:47 pm

I gotta tell ya, the pain of discovering the depth of the fraud is sometimes too much to bare. I have to take frequent breaks when getting through the material, especially the the fraud based in the scientific and mathematical materials. It's just so egregious, and far reaching. I just get sick to my stomach acquiring this understanding.

I'm not sure if people are seeing yet what I'm seeing, as I imagine more here are newer to the info than I am. But once it hits you, it really hits.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Thu 19 May 2011, 7:27 pm

I know where you are coming from.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Thu 19 May 2011, 8:17 pm

I hear ya, C1.
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Fri 20 May 2011, 5:03 pm

The vastness of the conspiracy is astounding. So many involved, are they all deluded about their goals?

They are trying to seal all of us into Plato's Cave, so that we can never ever get out, using our own energy to maintain the seal. WTF are they thinking?

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Fri 20 May 2011, 6:10 pm

Are we even capable of thinking like they do? I don't want to try if it means having to empathize with psychopaths.
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Mon 30 May 2011, 3:32 pm

Erdrick wrote:
Are we even capable of thinking like they do? I don't want to try if it means having to empathize with psychopaths.
I believe Bob Hare has done testing and found that we're generally smarter than psychopaths. They win because we don't expect the deception.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Mon 30 May 2011, 3:58 pm

I would agree. Its not so much as intelligence as it is having the balls to tell it like it is.
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Sat 16 Jul 2011, 11:08 am

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I gotta tell ya, the pain of discovering the depth of the fraud is sometimes too much to bare. I have to take frequent breaks when getting through the material, especially the the fraud based in the scientific and mathematical materials. It's just so egregious, and far reaching. I just get sick to my stomach acquiring this understanding.

I'm not sure if people are seeing yet what I'm seeing, as I imagine more here are newer to the info than I am. But once it hits you, it really hits.

That pain^ has now struck me badly. What the heck does a person do? It takes my breath away and I can hardly breathe.........Hope it will go away (?) - it is very painful.

It's a strange new world...
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Sun 17 Jul 2011, 7:10 pm

Jacques Ellul helps in his talks about having to live in two different worlds: Man's World and God's World. It's in his Christianity book that I've referred to previous and I think you, SH, may already have on your shelf.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:48 pm

I've got it, and will read it again. Thanks :-)
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Tue 09 Aug 2011, 8:56 am

This *damn* thing has me in its grip again........
Still reading Ellul; it seems to be saying belief in Christianity will make it all bearable.

I dunno...I'm trying, it's just not really clear ti me Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:25 pm

It's tough. I think Ellul realized that it's tough. But understanding that there are two distinct worlds makes it somewhat bearable, or perhaps at least understandable. I think, ultimately, it can keep one grounded, and give one a framework for living out their lives, even amongst the madness of man's world.

But yeah, it's still very very tough. On the one hand, we see the public who is totally oblivious to what is being perpetrated on them. Then there are the pyschopaths who perpetrate the ponerization. Here we are in the middle, able to see both, but unwilling to join either crowd.

It sucks.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Fri 12 Aug 2011, 2:47 pm

+100 bump.
Yes, emphatically.

I think I will start a thread for discussion of Ellul's views; hopefully that may lead to a clearer understanding!

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Sat 13 Aug 2011, 1:06 pm

Also, are you listening to Alan Watt again? Because that may be the primary cause of any drepressed feelings, for he's using scienfic techniques to create such feelings... that is his role. Full Spectrum Dominance requires total acquiescence on the part of the target, and Alan is very good at creating this dynamic. I've never interacted with an Alan listener who was not depressed. The first thing I tell them is to shut him off and keep him off and you'll feel much better.

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PostSubject: Re: PAIN.......   Sat 13 Aug 2011, 7:14 pm

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Also, are you listening to Alan Watt again? Because that may be the primary cause of any drepressed feelings, for he's using scienfic techniques to create such feelings... that is his role. Full Spectrum Dominance requires total acquiescence on the part of the target, and Alan is very good at creating this dynamic. I've never interacted with an Alan listener who was not depressed. The first thing I tell them is to shut him off and keep him off and you'll feel much better.

You know, that SOB does not spare the gruesome details of what he "reluctantly" reports - and that is what makes me sick to my stomach! Evil or Very Mad He's just a classier version of AJ --- and I was almost fooled. Geez, that hurts to realize ..

It is OFF for good C1, totally and forever. Thanks for very good advice. Very Happy Very Happy
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