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 Subject: Survival of the FitTest Fri 25 Mar 2011, 3:11 pm  
 Darwin's theory presumes this concept of survival of the fittest, but fittest presumes that one has to be fit for a particular use, for one can be fit perfectly fine in one system but not well at all in another system. This is where this entire notion breaks down, because fitforuse presume a specific use,, which in turn presumes a specific closed system. But we've learned from Cantor and Godel that nature is NOT a closed system, it is an infinite open system. So, how can one be fit for use, or be the fittest, if there are infinite possibilities within this open system of nature.
The entire concept proposed by Darwin was a scam perpetrated by an elite member of society in order to make the mass man think that he must conform to a given closed system in order to survive. When one looks at it in terms of mathematical proofs, the entire way of thinking breaks down. _________________ "For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root."David Thoreau (18171862) 

Silent Wind
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 Subject: Re: Survival of the FitTest Fri 25 Mar 2011, 6:40 pm  
 Nice application of Godels theory. My question is this though. Your statement is basically saying that Darwins theory may or is correct within a closed system. But isnt mathematical proofs another closed system, therefore a closed system (Godels or whomevers mathematical proofs) is measuring another closed system (darwins theory). This leads me to another question, How can there be any truth or measurement in Godels world if there are an infinite of infinities? Isnt anything possible in Godels world (infinite of infinities) therefore anything is able to be changed, hence no ultimate truths?
I hope my direction is clear enough for a reply. 

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 Subject: Re: Survival of the FitTest Wed 30 Mar 2011, 8:01 pm  
  Silent Wind wrote:
 Nice application of Godels theory. My question is this though. Your statement is basically saying that Darwins theory may or is correct within a closed system. But isnt mathematical proofs another closed system, therefore a closed system (Godels or whomevers mathematical proofs) is measuring another closed system (darwins theory). This leads me to another question, How can there be any truth or measurement in Godels world if there are an infinite of infinities? Isnt anything possible in Godels world (infinite of infinities) therefore anything is able to be changed, hence no ultimate truths?
I hope my direction is clear enough for a reply.
Yes, I think you are correct here, and it's something that I'm wrestling with as well: if there are infinite infinities, then there is no universal truth other than there are infinite infinities. The problem we have currently, at least the dilemma for the public, is that they are deceived into believing absolutes about our current systems, and with those supposed beliefs comes great transfer of power. Hence, the power only lives because the deceit is successful. So, while on the one hand understanding Godel seems to break down all but one universal truth, it also breaks down millions of layers of deceipt that populates our existence. _________________ "For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root."David Thoreau (18171862) 

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