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PostSubject: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 4:14 pm

Here's the latest attempt at discrediting their biggest "trouble makers" (RPF post copied and pasted below, with my response included).....

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528392#post2528392

revolutionary8 wrote:
Because of your apparent "respect" for transparancy, might I direct you to a Mailer YOU sent out yourself- re: your "pwn", SELF TAUGHT.
I am SICK of playing this game.
The link Le posted, was not "anything new", NOR A PLUG!!!! , BUT RATHER A TOTAL PHISH OUT of those members who might be "ripe" for PROPAGANDA.

Now, take me for my word, and YOU CAN CALL ME OUT ON THIS IP AND ANYONE ELSE WHO CARES TO CHALLENGE ME---NOT ONLY DO I HAVE THE PMS, I FORWARDED THEM TO MODERATORS MONTHS AGO- AND NO IT WASN'T FUCKING LE!!!

A few months ago, a SPAM EMAIL was sent out TO MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM (IE PHISHING) to "recruit" them to your "forum of RPF/CFL malcontent" and IMO, complete PARANOIA, and I AM A CTER!!!!!!

Now,
I FUCKING DARE YOU TO CALL ME A LIAR. I BELIVE IN PRIVACY, UNTIL THOSE WHO PRETEND TO PREACH "PRIVACY", USE OTHERS "PRIVACY", AND THEN TRY AND TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME!

YOU IP, ARE A F'IN' SIEVE.

oh, and one more thing, I might be one of your members. Wink
You never know, afterall, I am a sucker we play innocent reaalll nice... Wink
Yes, I sent out PM's to some members here who I had been in contact with and who I thought would enjoy being part of another forum. So what?

I've also posted links here directing people to that forum and posts at that forum. Again, so what?

Post the PM's if you want. Let everyone see what you are talking about. Start a thread on it if you wish. That's ok with me.

If anyone wishes to visit the forum that this poster is referring to, the URL is:
http://wwws.forummotion.com/

Anyone is welcome to join, just please read the rules first.

Finally, I'm not really sure what a lot of your code means in your post. Honestly, I didn't understand all of your points. You're welcome to post again, and explain what the point is that you are trying to make, as I would appreciate that.

You are also free to post in the forum that I have referenced you to, especially if you are already a member. If there is something that we've said that you dispute, please go ahead and dispute it then. You will get a fair and adult hearing.

Anything else?

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 4:44 pm

I edited my response at RPF, adding the following:


"On Edit: I'll give you 24-hours to post the PM's that you are referring to. If you do not, then I will post them myself, as you have implied that there was some impropriety on my part, or that I was attempting to hide something, or that I have been disingenuous in some way. Hence, I want to make sure that everyone sees all of the PM's unedited, so that full transparency can be achieved. I am also available to answer questions, either via post, email or PM."

Luckily, I saved all of my PM's to a text file when I recently clean-out my inbox and sentbox, so I will have to dig those out in order to post them. In total, I think a send a PM to about 12 or so RPF members to inform them of this new forum.

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 5:37 pm

What a total waste of time. I can't understand why you still hang out there. Those people don't want to wake up. They just want to live in their little Patriot bubble. And the string pullers will keep them spinning in circles chasing their tails until they are financially drained, physically spent and emotionally devastated. Causalities of War, and there is not a damn thing we can do about them. My suggestion is to move on, friend.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 6:01 pm

Rev8 is a tool and was on my IGNORE list.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 6:59 pm

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What a total waste of time. I can't understand why you still hang out there. Those people don't want to wake up. They just want to live in their little Patriot bubble. And the string pullers will keep them spinning in circles chasing their tails until they are financially drained, physically spent and emotionally devastated. Causalities of War, and there is not a damn thing we can do about them. My suggestion is to move on, friend.
On the other hand, seems like lots of people are finally ready to jump ship. A few might be ready for the next phase of their development. So, maybe worthwhile continuing to post there, as more and more people seem to be warming up to your content.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 8:20 pm

Quote :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528392#post2528392

What is the title of this thread, I can't access it. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 9:44 pm

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Quote :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528392#post2528392

What is the title of this thread, I can't access it. Thanks.
Well, I guess it would help if I could post the correct link Smile

Michael Nystrom speaks with Ron Paul himself about the Ken Buck Advertisement....
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528420#post2528420

It in the following subforum:
Liberty Forest: Liberty Activism: Ron Paul Grassroots Central: Campaign for Liberty

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Thu 04 Feb 2010, 11:19 pm

IP wrote:
ramallamamama wrote:
Quote :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528392#post2528392

What is the title of this thread, I can't access it. Thanks.
Well, I guess it would help if I could post the correct link Smile

Michael Nystrom speaks with Ron Paul himself about the Ken Buck Advertisement....
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2528420#post2528420

It in the following subforum:
Liberty Forest: Liberty Activism: Ron Paul Grassroots Central: Campaign for Liberty

Thanks, IP!
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 3:38 pm

I wish the link here wasn't posted there on the open board. This is not a "safe" place anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 4:11 pm

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I wish the link here wasn't posted there on the open board. This is not a "safe" place anymore.
This forum will continue to be moderated in adherence to the rules, and therefore personal attacks and techniques of manipulation will simply not be tolerated here.

Posts are obvioulsy public. Forum members can, at anytime, edit their email addresses or usernames, or simply re-register under another unknown username.

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 4:34 pm

I've already gone through and edited some of my posts (weeks ago). Threads like this and other threads relating directly to rpf were valuable for those of us who had issues to discuss, but at the same time they can also be looked at as particularly antagonistic. I'm not here to break up rpf, I'm not there to break up C4L, no matter what my concerns are with either.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 4:48 pm

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I've already gone through and edited some of my posts (weeks ago). Threads like this and other threads relating directly to rpf were valuable for those of us who had issues to discuss, but at the same time they can also be looked at as particularly antagonistic. I'm not here to break up rpf, I'm not there to break up C4L, no matter what my concerns are with either.
I understand.

From what I can surmize, I have not seen any evidence of anyone attempting to "break-up" anything. It's my observation that people here are simply wishing to discuss issues in an open manner, without fear of retribution. If that leads to some conclusion, so be it. But I think it has a lot more to do with people calling-it-as-one-sees-it. At least, that's where I'm coming from, and no one is immune.

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 5:30 pm

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LLS wrote:
I've already gone through and edited some of my posts (weeks ago). Threads like this and other threads relating directly to rpf were valuable for those of us who had issues to discuss, but at the same time they can also be looked at as particularly antagonistic. I'm not here to break up rpf, I'm not there to break up C4L, no matter what my concerns are with either.
I understand.

From what I can surmize, I have not seen any evidence of anyone attempting to "break-up" anything. It's my observation that people here are simply wishing to discuss issues in an open manner, without fear of retribution. If that leads to some conclusion, so be it. But I think it has a lot more to do with people calling-it-as-one-sees-it. At least, that's where I'm coming from, and no one is immune.
Well, that's what I was thinking it was when I joined. Unfortunately, the cat is out of the bag, so to speak, and it's only a matter of time before what is said here is used as a weapon for another purge.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 5:44 pm

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Well, that's what I was thinking it was when I joined. Unfortunately, the cat is out of the bag, so to speak, and it's only a matter of time before what is said here is used as a weapon for another purge.
My question is, why would you want to be a member of a "group" that purges people like you? It seems to me that as people within that "group" gain understanding, they will either stop participating, leave, or be "purged."
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Mon 08 Feb 2010, 9:12 pm

What a sad state of affairs. RPF has becomes such a place of fear propagation that people are no concerned about posting here for fear that they will be identified and targeted at RPF.

Tell me, what does that sound like? Sounds like oppression to me.

You realize, we let it happen, by allowing the oppression to be effective. The only way to cease it is to ignore it and carry on.

But it is a very unfortunately situation, and certainly gives credence to "its'" claims that RPF is a COINTEL run outfit, for this is what COINTEL does, it creates and breeds fear.

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Tue 09 Feb 2010, 12:05 pm

I honestly don't think rpf is deliberately cointelpro. I do think it has been hijacked by people with agendas, LibertyEagle is one such figure and for some reason this do-nothing is allowed to get away with what she does. I'm really not sure why but I think it's more laziness (or fear) on the part of the admin than it is a conspiracy among them.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Tue 09 Feb 2010, 6:10 pm

IP is coming out swinging today, great to see.
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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Wed 10 Feb 2010, 9:22 pm

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I honestly don't think rpf is deliberately cointelpro. I do think it has been hijacked by people with agendas, LibertyEagle is one such figure and for some reason this do-nothing is allowed to get away with what she does. I'm really not sure why but I think it's more laziness (or fear) on the part of the admin than it is a conspiracy among them.
Given what I've witnessed in the last few days, with people conspiring all over the place to disrupt excellent conversations, and fantastic threads being buried after thousands of views, there is no doubt any more what that place is. They have totally and openly exposed themselves.

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PostSubject: Re: RPF Retaliation Begins   Wed 10 Feb 2010, 9:42 pm

Mini-Me sure had a change of heart. Even some of your past naysayers are coming forth with compliments, like FrankRep today...
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