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PostSubject: Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots   Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots EmptySat 16 Jan 2010, 2:05 am

Memento (released in 2000)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/

Official Movie Site: http://www.otnemem.com/

On the surface layer, Memento chronicles two separate stories of Leonard (Guy Pearce), an ex-insurance investigator who can no longer build new memories, as he attempts to find the murderer of his wife, which is the last thing he remembers. One story line movies forward in time while the other tells the story backwards revealing more each time.



But below the surface layers, Leonard shows us how mind control victim can be manipulated by handlers, while simultaneously depicting how the public at-large is controlled when it can't understand its own history and its attention constantly distracted by the latest propaganda diversions.
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One of my favorite movies. I've seen it ten times or so and I'm still piecing it together. Thanks for the new insight, IP.
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PostSubject: Mind control themes and programming triggers in movies: Eyes Wide Shut   Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots EmptyThu 21 Jan 2010, 12:48 am

A bunch of movies on mind control reviewed here
There are many movies reviewed here along with the typical triggers - butterflys, rainbows, etc...


Eyes Wide Shut — 1999. Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Sydney Pollack, Todd Field.

Dr. Bill Harford (Cruise) and his wife Alice, (Kidman), are well-to-dos who live in New York City. The crux of the movie centers on Alice revealing to Bill one night that she’d had the desire to cheat on him a year before with a Naval officer, and would have, if given half the chance. This revelation comes as a shocker to Bill, who just assumed that everything was hunky dory and moving along smoothly in his relationship. It also ruins the image he’d had of his wife as being innocent and blissful. Alice’s revelation sends Bill wandering around the city at night, trying to sort out his thoughts and his anger/confusion. His walkabout results in him crossing paths with unusual people and circumstances, all of which culminates in him winding up at an orgy of the elite at a Gothic mansion that turns out to be more than he bargained for.
Stanley Kubrick basically made a movie about the soulless, empty, rich elite and their occult ritual double lives (usually Satanic) using their programmed multiple personality slaves – and then mysteriously died right after submitting the final cut of the movie to the studio. This means that the version of the movie the public has been given is most likely not the same version he created. It’s true that Kubrick was getting up there in years, but it does seem like an odd coincidence.
“Eyes Wide Shut” was meticulously arranged and filmed in a hypnotic and engaging way, with use of bright color playing a heavy role in each and every scene. (A point that I’ll reference again in a short bit.) There are several layers happening: The first two, same as the novel it was based on, involves fidelity and sexual relations, and dream vs. reality. And it’s in my personal opinion that Stanley Kubrick saw the opportunity to use the “dream vs. reality” theme to create the third layer – concerning the lives of the rich elite, and their sexually exploited, (read: programmed/mind controlled?) disposable pawns. I haven’t read the original book that this was based on, but from what I’ve gathered the plot elements were changed around in order to work that in.
And as explained in the intro to this section, dream/illusion versus reality is a HUGE factor in programming mind controlled victims, whether they’re used as assassins/agent provocateurs, or sex kittens. What’s real? What’s illusion/dream? They don’t know, because they’re compartmentalized multiples with alternate personas, living multiple lives…just like what we find in this movie. I really can’t emphasize enough that the work of Fritz Springmeier would be highly helpful to people to understand fully what I’m talking about in this particular movie review. If you’ve read his book “The Illuminati Formula for Creating a Totally Undetectable Mind Control Slave” then this movie just becomes so incredibly obvious in its references to mind control programming and sex slaves, and their use in satanic/illuminati sex rituals. Probably one of the most flagrant ones ever made. For those who’ve never even heard of the subject and have no idea it even exists, let alone read his material, then none of what I’m going to talk about here will even make a bit of sense.

Key Elements
Alice. The famous shot of the movie, and a variation of which appears on the movie box cover is of Alice (Nicole Kidman) gazing at her reflection in a mirror as Tom Cruise kisses her neck. This seems to be representative of Alice Through the Looking Glass, one of the most prominent mind control themes in use, as previously mentioned.

“Over the Rainbow.” From Fritz’s book: “Some alters live “over the rainbow” and some do not. Both types will use the term “over the rainbow”, but with different meanings attached. For those who live “over the rainbow,” they serve their masters in such a deep hypnotic trance that they perceive reality like it’s a dream….Deeper alters who live “over the rainbow” experience memories/life in the following fashion: faces and porn cameras are airbrushed out of their memory, distinctive marks in the perpetrators such as scars and wrinkles are airbrushed out, colors and lights are very bright due to the total dilation of the pupils while in deep trance, and there is no sense of time for these alters.” [note the mention of “bright color,” as pointed out earlier, and keep that last bit concerning “no sense of time” in mind, as it will come up again later……..]
Following are the instances where we see prominent mention of the rainbow in this movie:
1. During the ball at the beginning, Bill is being spirited away from the party by two women (models) who have obvious plans to seduce him. When he asks “Ladies, where exactly are we going…exactly?” One replies,
“Where the rainbow ends.”
“Where the rainbow ends?” he replies.
“Don’t you want to go where the rainbow ends? “ the other one says.
“Well, now that depends where that is…”

(I used to include a link here to a pic of Mariah Carey, supposedly a mind controlled industry performer, complete with her alternate moniker “Mimi,” and who had a mental breakdown at age 30, the significance of which we’ll get to in a moment. But in the picture Mariah was lying seductively on a bed in short shorts and heels with a lollipop…with a large neon rainbow sign on the wall behind her, perfectly illustrating what I mean by “over the rainbow sex kitten programming.” But I had to remove that link because I suddenly started getting hundreds of hits a week to this particular page based on that image. But as noted in my “Logan’s Run” write up, the Logan’s movie box cover features a prominent rainbow, and is about a hedonistic/sexual society where everybody is killed at age 30 – supposedly as Illuminati sex slaves are – in a ritual known as Carousel. Keep all this in mind, because it’s going to come up in this movie as well and I’ll get into it more in a short bit.)
2. Later on in the movie when Bill needs to get a costume to go to the private masquerade party (masks/masquerade, more mind control symbolisms) he goes to a costume shop called… Under the Rainbow Fashions. The owner’s underage daughter, played by Leelee Sobieski, is caught cavorting in her underwear with two very older Japanese men, then flirtatiously wraps her arms around Bill, whispers something in his ear, then sashays off with her hand on her hip and eyes locked on him, advertising her underwear clad goods. More over the rainbow sex kitten programming. (is the shop name “under” the rainbow referring to her being “under age”? Is it a case where the store’s name/sign is advertising to those with “eyes to see and ears to hear” the secondary layer that can be found there?) At the end of the movie her father, Mr. Milich, tells Bill that if there’s anything else that he wants……..anything at all……….to just let him know. Meanwhile as his daughter bats her mascara-ed eyelashes at Bill, wearing a slinky robe, and it becomes obvious to the audience that Mr. Milich is actually pimping his daughter out. With Millich’s eastern European sounding accent the whole thing reminded me of the young girls from Eastern Europe/former Soviet Union who are exploited as sex slaves.
3. Rainbow Christmas lights – I know the movie takes place at Christmas, but Stanley Kubrick, being who he is, sets up every scene of his movie in a meticulous way. Things are there in a shot because he wants them to be. And nearly every place Bill goes throughout his evening has rainbow Christmas lights strung up everywhere. No other Christmas movie that I’ve watched features this many rainbow lights. Why is this? Several possible reasons: A) Considering the other very obvious references to rainbows, I believe this was for a reason. If anything, making the movie take place at Christmas assures that there’s an excuse to have rainbow lights in nearly every shot. Again, colors and rainbows are heavily used in mind control programming. B) Over on YouTube, I found a video presentation about the Illuminati symbolism in Eyes Wide Shut by “MovieInsider,” which mentions the extensive use of Christmas trees with lights. His/her theory was that it had to do with the triangle shape of the tree itself. Triangles/pyramid, more Brotherhood symbolism. This is certainly a possibility and worth mentioning; C) I myself recently realized that Fritz Springmeier noted the use of trees within mind control, and how trees, with their roots and branches, are representative of actual systems set up within the mind; and then D) Illum- inating Christmas lights….Illuminati. This idea was brought to my attention by a reader who emailed me. Think also of George Bush’s New World Order speech way back when, and his reference to the “thousand points of light.” So with that in mind, from Kubrick’s shooting script we see this:
“Illuminations creating a ‘curtain of light’ hang from the wall…”
“The walls are draped with the ‘curtain of light’ illuminations…”
And that’s just for one particular scene. These “illuminations of light” and curtains of Christmas lights are everywhere in the movie, in every mansion, house and apartment, on the streets and in the shops.

“Open Your Eyes.” At Ziegler’s party, Bill is whisked away upstairs where he finds Ziegler, the host of the party, putting his pants back on next to an unconscious nude woman who has supposedly overdosed on a speedball. Bill tries to wake her up with, among other things, “…Can you open your eyes for me?…let me see you open your eyes …” See the reviews for “Fight Club” and “Vanilla Sky” for more on the trigger phrase “open your eyes.” Even the title, “Eyes Wide Shut” relates to open your eyes.

The occult ritual orgy. Everything leads up to this moment. Bill finds himself crashing what he thinks will be just a regular old swanky party, only to find himself at a ritual occult orgy at a gated Gothic mansion on Long Island. The interior is decked out in red and black, the music is supposed to be Romanian played in reverse, Nick Nightingale plays the keyboard blindfolded, as the ritual leader swings a bowl of incense counterclockwise, surrounded by 12 nearly nude models, (12 around 1, 13 total); Each woman “kisses” the one next to her, also moving counterclockwise around the circle.
As Bill explores the mansion he finds people sitting around completely still, gazing off blankly at nothing, or moving about in a bored, slow, mechanical way amidst the couples having sex. As far as the sex goes, it’s just guys mechanically pounding away at females who may as well be blow up dolls, or girl-on-girl with the girls groping each other in a slo-mo, trance-like state. The girls he does encounter roaming about move in a slow, methodical, controlled way, talking in a minimalist, slow and fake way. There’s no life, personality or soul going on anywhere with anyone, which is exactly the point. There’s even a room where mostly-nude couples are lifelessly dancing with their masks on to the muzak version of “Strangers in the Night.” I don’t think that scene was supposed to be funny, but to me it was. Very Happy Why would anybody dance in the nude like a lifeless zombie to muzak at an elite orgie? It was if they were serving as mere background props for the elite people in charge. Just seems to me to be more confirmation that most of the peopel there were operating in a tranced out, dream-like state. They were “there”…but not really.
1. The masks. Everybody walking about the mansion is wearing masks. As noted in the work of Fritz Springmeier, one mind control programming technique involves “Porcelain mask programming.”
2. Chokers. Every single female at the mansion orgy is wearing a black, velvet looking choker necklace. Recently in some mind control book or article I came across a mention of how sex kitten slaves will have a penchant for wearing choker necklaces and collars, and they’re encouraged to do so as it represents the same thing as it does for animals – being the personal property under the control of handlers. Wish I could remember the source that mentioned this, I’ll have to do some digging around and see if I can track it down.
3. The occult ritual with the center circle and the red and black hooded robes is reminiscent of “Carousel” in “Logan’s Run” and the masquerade ball ties into “Labyrinth” which used the same symbolism…although in a much more innocent way. Wink So many movies tie into other movies, it’s just a matter of putting all the pieces together and seeing the bigger picture.
Speaking of “Logan’s Run,” as mentioned earlier, the Illuminati sex slaves are supposedly killed off by the age of 30. So with that that in mind, during this occult ritual scene Bill the “party crasher” gets discovered and is shamed in front of an entire roomful of masked people and told to remove his clothes. Something very bad is about to happen to him…until one of the masked women offers herself up in his place, saying, “Take me instead.” She’s led away by somebody, Bill is allowed to leave, and that’s the last we know of her. We don’t know who she is, but her identity is later discovered as being Mandy, the nude woman unconscious from a speedball at Ziegler’s party at the beginning of the movie. And after offering herself up in Bill’s place at the ritual, Mandy “coincidentally” turns up dead the next morning in her hotel room, supposedly of an overdose. The New York Post article that Bill is reading at the coffeehouse notes Mandy’s age as being what of all ages but……30. ( NOTE: Within mainstream media, pay attention to the sudden untimely deaths of particular performers or models. So many times they are killed or die under “mysterious circumstances” at 30, or within several months before their 30th birthday.) Also on the front cover of the New York Post, for an unrelated article, it says in big bold letters, “LUCKY TO BE ALIVE.” Bill had told Mandy at the beginning of the movie after reviving her, “You’re lucky to be alive.” Now she’s dead after offering herself up in his place…and he’s the one who’s lucky to be alive. This sort of “mirroring” is used throughout the movie, including with the dialogue, which I’ll get to in a moment.
4. Dual lives/alternate personas. The participants at the occult orgy are leading double lives, and nobody out in the “real world” would ever imagine differently. Later on Ziegler reveals that he was also at the ritual and lets Bill in on the super elite nature of the people that were there, saying Bill would be stunned if he only knew who some of them were.

Domino. The prostitute that Bill meets as he roams about the city at night is named Domino. There is coincidentally what’s known as “domino programming” in mind control slaves. At the very end of one scene, Domino says to Bill, “Don’t worry…I don’t keep track of the time.” Being that this is the last sentence of the scene means that the director wanted this to be emphasized. For what reason? Well interestingly enough, several authors on the subject of mind control (including Fritz Springmeier and Cathy O’Brien) have noted that a mind controlled subject in their triggered alternate personas will often have no sense of time. (See the “Over the Rainbow” section above where the no sense of time thing is mentioned.) And once inside Domino’s room, we see that she has rainbow Christmas lights strung up everywhere, tribal masks on the wall, a mirror over her dresser, and on the dresser, under the mirror is a book named “Shadows of the Mirror.” We’ll find these same symbols repeated later in “V For Vendetta,” coming up next, since most of these movies have overlapping symbols and themes going on.

At the end of the movie, Bill returns home where his wife Alice awakens from a “bad dream” and tearfully relays that in the dream, she was at a party, having sex with many man, so many that she lost count, while he watched.
This is the clincher of the movie….although it leaves unanswered questions and “plot holes.” Alice is describing to a T the scene where Bill just was, but yet, she wasn’t there, and she couldn’t have known…right? Well, not unless she has been there…possibly in the past? Again, unanswered questions and plot holes, possibly something that was included in the original version of the movie but which was later cut out after Kubrick died, I don’t know. But my theory is that her “dream” is possibly a past memory. Combine this, with her name Alice — through the looking glass — and the whole split personality, compartmentalized multiple, mind control sex slave sub-theme of the movie, and maybe it all makes sense. Maybe. I don’t know. !

Minor Points of Interest:
“Not a soul.” At the party at the beginning of the movie, as Bill and Alice dance together, she asks him if he knows anybody there. His response: “Not a soul….” A double entendre implying that everybody there is soulless. Later when Bill has to make a house call to somebody whose father has died, he tells Alice “I have to go over there and show my face.” That was interesting in light of the masquerade orgy later on in the movie where the key was everybody’s hidden faces and the way he is shamed and forced to remove his mask in front of everybody. (Which also doubles as more of that “mirroring” thing I mentioned.)
And relating to the idea of specific word choices is the repeating dialogue. There’s so much dialogue that consists of somebody saying something, and then the other person parroting – mirroring – it back, word for word. Bill/Tom Cruise does this A LOT, and has the way of speaking that involves looking the other characters directly in their eyes in this mesmerizing way while gently commanding them and manipulating them, and parroting back everything they say to him, and/or repeating himself in this methodical way. As tedious as it is, I don’t think I even noticed it the first few times I watched this movie! And that’s what’s so interesting about it. So I’m wondering what the purpose was – is it to get the viewer in a hypnotic trance? Speaking in such a methodical way, with the camera focused in on Tom Cruise locking his eyes like that and parroting lines may serve to get people in a light trance state as they’re watching. It could also represent “mirroring,” maybe relating to mirror programming. If anybody has any other theories though I’d be curious to hear. The possible answer: A reader emailed me with his additional take and insights into this movie, and something he pointed out is that in his opinion, Bill is a handler. Bill doesn’t know it during his conscious waking life, but in his alternate persona state, he’s a handler, and it explains why he talks the way he does. I tend to agree, because of the fact that Bill expertly “handles” everybody he comes into contact with in the movie and gets exactly what he wants. He’s very much a man in control. Considering Alice’s dream of being at an orgy, it totally fits – both of them have alternate lives. She’s one of the sex kitten slaves, and he’s a handler. The reader also was thinking that Bill was one of Mandy’s handlers as well, and it’s why Ziegler called Bill in particular to come revive her…..with the hypnotic and commanding trigger “Open your eyes…” and it’s why she committed herself to dying for him at the end. Who knows though….just a theory. So much is left out of this movie, so many plot holes and loose ends……
Romanian/Hungarian. On a side note, I had previously wondered what the significance was to the Hungarian art dealer named Szandor at Ziegler’s party who was trying to seduce Alice. For starters, a reader emailed me and pointed out that Szandor is also the name of Anton Szandor LaVay, founder of the Church of Satan. A possible reference to the Satanic Illuminati. So, one possibility. So then why Hungarian, of all nationalities? Then I realized……the music at the ritual orgy is reverse Romanian. The stranger is Hungarian. When you do the research, this area of eastern Europe with “Transylvania” etc. is mentioned as being an important area for “elite bloodlines,” including Vlad the Impaler, aka, “Dracula” of all people, whom George W. and family are supposed to be descendents of. At first glance this theory may seem silly, but at the moment I really can’t think of a better reason for why Romania and Hungary, a spawning ground for elite bloodlines, would have both been featured in a movie about the occultic rich elite.
Fidelio. Bill needs a code word to gain access to the occult party, (like trigger code words, accessing closed off areas of the mind). Fidelio is that word, a play on the word fidelity, which is also one of the themes of the movie. This reminded me of the movie Mulholland Drive with “Silencia.”

“Eyes Wide Shut” has so many layers to it I don’t think I’ll ever be finished trying to decode it. I keep noticing new things every time I watch it, which is amazing because this movie really does play out in such a methodical and almost seemingly boring way. And yet it packs so much in there. You just have to open your eyes. Wink
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What a gem, great find!
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PostSubject: Re: Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots   Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots EmptyThu 21 Jan 2010, 11:01 am

I still haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut!! Think I'll have to order through Netflix, or some such...but I've been really amazed to learn there are so many victims of brain-washing (or mind-control)! In this vein, I've lately been weighing a private theory that AJ and perhaps Alan Watt ( and others of that ilk), might themselves be victims of this disgusting treatment. Otherwise it's really hard to understand how they maintain their 'dual personnas' --not a normally sustainable state, IMO.

Wonder if anyone else see this as a possibility......?

In any event, this is a fascinating site, ST!
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PostSubject: Re: Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots   Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots EmptyThu 21 Jan 2010, 3:09 pm

ScoutsHonor wrote:
I still haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut!! Think I'll have to order through Netflix, or some such...but I've been really amazed to learn there are so many victims of brain-washing (or mind-control)! In this vein, I've lately been weighing a private theory that AJ and perhaps Alan Watt ( and others of that ilk), might themselves be victims of this disgusting treatment. Otherwise it's really hard to understand how they maintain their 'dual personnas' --not a normally sustainable state, IMO.

Wonder if anyone else see this as a possibility......?

In any event, this is a fascinating site, ST!
Oh, I would bet that much of Hollywood (ie the culture industry) and the Cryptocracy on the whole is either under threat of blackmail or is indoctrinated through some cult-like behavior, which could include mind control techniques (what is TV?). Why do you think we have a Major General (Michael Aquino) authoring his thesis on MindWar and also leading-up one of the biggest Satanic Cults in the World: The OTO?

It's a system! And the cult-shit is part of that system of control. There's a great interview around with Dave Chappelle at Inside the Actors Studio (after he came back from running away to Africa in order to escape the "Hollywood scene")... basically he comments what a sick place Hollywood has become. I'm sure Dave has seen some thing he probably cannot talk about.

PS. I think I've found the video I was referring to...

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ScoutsHonor wrote:
I still haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut!! Think I'll have to order through Netflix, or some such...but I've been really amazed to learn there are so many victims of brain-washing (or mind-control)! In this vein, I've lately been weighing a private theory that AJ and perhaps Alan Watt ( and others of that ilk), might themselves be victims of this disgusting treatment. Otherwise it's really hard to understand how they maintain their 'dual personnas' --not a normally sustainable state, IMO.

Wonder if anyone else see this as a possibility......?

In any event, this is a fascinating site, ST!

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Oh, I would bet that much of Hollywood (ie the culture industry) and the Cryptocracy on the whole is either under threat of blackmail or is indoctrinated through some cult-like behavior, which could include mind control techniques (what is TV?). Why do you think we have a Major General (Michael Aquino) authoring his thesis on MindWar and also leading-up one of the biggest Satanic Cults in the World: The OTO? "

It does get weirder and weirder. This Aquino character has an amazing history and yet he was welcomed with open arms into the military...astounding! I've been living in a Simulacrum for sure with regard to WHO and WHAT has been running this country (& for a long time, it seems). And now he's the head of the Temple of Set--a Satanic cult/temple, but it is "officially recognized." ?! Sheesh - this country's leadership is hopelessly corrupt. Sad

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It's a system! And the cult-shit is part of that system of control. There's a great interview around with Dave Chappelle at Inside the Actors Studio (after he came back from running away to Africa in order to escape the "Hollywood scene")... basically he comments what a sick place Hollywood has become. I'm sure Dave has seen some thing he probably cannot talk about.

Thanks much for the video. Chappelle is certainly damn disturbed--and now I better understand why. Still, I wonder: Is it possible that crazy Alex Jones is a victim of MK Ultra techniques??!! His instability (have you HEARD his rants??) is pretty blatant. (And I think he strongly identifies with The Joker!! to boot)


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Thanks much for the video. Chappelle is certainly damn disturbed--and now I better understand 'why.' Still, I wonder: Is it possible that crazy Alex Jones is a victim of MK Ultra techniques??!! His instability (have you HEARD his rants??) is pretty blatant. (And I think he strongly identifies with The Joker!! to boot)

I thought his series was brilliant.
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Thanks much for the video. Chappelle is certainly damn disturbed--and now I better understand 'why.' Still, I wonder: Is it possible that crazy Alex Jones is a victim of MK Ultra techniques??!! His instability (have you HEARD his rants??) is pretty blatant. (And I think he strongly identifies with The Joker!! to boot)

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I thought his series was brilliant.

What, though, is your opinion of his mental health? I think that playing a patriot while in actuality being an enemy of patriots has to take a major toll on _anyone's_ psyche...and his incredible morbid rants are a sign of this.

Interested to hear your opinion, though.


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SH, Keep in mind I was living in a fog of illicit substances back in those days. I thought his comedy central show was cutting edge, though my own sanity was in question then. I had none of the knowledge then I have know. It's be interesting to do a review.

Would you elaborate on the patriot reference you made?

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Ah, THAT is the problem. Grin.
I was talking about Alex Jones with those remarks. lol.

I think Dave's pretty darn brilliant, too.
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Jones? He's a freaking KOOK!

And master of NLP. His dad is a dentist ya know. Wonder if there is any militay intelligence in his background...
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It would be interesting to look into his background.

Time to make some coffee...
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Agreed.

Pass on the coffee, just getting ready for a luxurious nap.

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PostSubject: Re: Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots   Mainstream Movies with Mind Control Subplots EmptySun 24 Jan 2010, 6:59 pm

Trancers II was mentioned in that Walter Bowart interview uploaded here. From Wikipedia, the movie is a 1991 American action science fiction film directed by Charles Band. It is the sequel to Trancers starring Tim Thomerson and Helen Hunt.

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Los Angeles, 1991. Jack Deth (Tim Thomerson) has gotten used to life with his wife Lena (Helen Hunt) in the six years since they killed Whistler. Hap Ashby (Bif Manard) has made a fortune investing and has moved from the streets to a palatial estate, sharing it with Jack and Lena. But life is about to get difficult for Jack. Whistler's brother, E.D. Wardo (Richard Lynch), has gone back in time and created a "trancer farm" under the guise of an environmental organization. GreenWorld strives to 'clean up the world', but they are kidnapping the homeless and mental patients to enslave in a trancer army. Once again, Hap is under attack, useful to Wardo as the ancestor of future Angel City Council Member Ashe. Jack's ready to singe some trancers in the name of the law, but he isn't expecting his dead wife, Alice (Megan Ward) to show up -- and neither is Lena.

Alice has been saved from death by the City Council and send back to 1991 to help Jack stop Wardo. The tension mounts as Lena becomes fearful of losing Jack to his future wife, Hap slips back to the bottle to deal with the stress, and Jack realizes that when Alice returns to the future, she'll die again. Somehow, Jack must find a way to save more than just the future.



The producer was Charles Robert Band, who was most famous films are those in the Puppet Master franchise, made by his Full Moon Features company. Before he had Full Moon Features, his earlier (and now defunct) company Empire Pictures made films like Ghoulies and Re-Animator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Band
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Some key clips from the Trancers 2 movie. Remember, this was release in 1991, and the Club of Rome report, on using Global Warming, came out around the same time, or maybe just slightly beforehand.







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Telefon (1977)
They'll do anything to stop Telefon. The operation that can trigger 51 human time bombs.


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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076804/plotsummary

The KGB's looking for one of their people, a man named Dalchimsky cause he has stolen something important but unfortunately he manages to get through the border. Later in the U.S. some seemingly ordinary people after receiving a phone call go out and destroy key American military installations. Back in the U.S.S.R. General Strelsky and Colonel Malchenko send for Grigori Borzov, a KGB agent who has been to the U.S. on missions before. They inform him that after the U-2 incident in fear of the possibility that a war with the U.S. will occur; they were part of an operation called TELEFON that involved recruiting young agents and then brainwashing them into believing that they are Americans they would then assume the identity of an American who died a long and who would be their age now. They would be situated in a city that is near or where a key U.S. military installation is location. They were also programmed to destroy upon receiving the command phrase. They have been fortunate that they have never had to send them on their missions. But they believe that Dalchimsky stole the book that lists all the TELEFON agents and is now sending them out on their suicide missions. It also seems that the current KGB Chairman is unaware of TELEFON so Strelsky and Malchenko want Borzov to go to America and find Dalchimsky before he starts World War 3. Borzov who is endowed with a photographic memory, memorizes the second TELEFON book and goes to America and is aided by Barbara.


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