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PostSubject: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Sun 10 Jan 2010, 6:29 pm

The following is an audio featured on The Paracast, a paranormal and UFOlogy internet radio show this broadcast is by one Don Ecker of Dark Matters Radio on the subject of Bill Cooper and his mistaken enshrinement by the conspiracy movement as a martyred hero. Ecker has a grudge against Cooper for sure, this still despite his being dead, but there are many salient points that emerge and the various interview clips of Cooper (especially the death threats he made to a 69 year old man) are very worthwhile hearing I think.
It's a long audio, 2 hours worth, keep in mind. I've heard a lot of the information in this audio second-hand perviously but it's more pointed to hear a first-hand, eye witness claimant to many of these issues. Plus there is more I haven't heard before. Cooper was a bigtime UFO scene insert back in the day but the claim in this audio is that he only moved away from the scene because, in high irony, he was found to be fraud by all the main players in UFOlogy. His assertion always was that he was fed "UFO disinfo" and sidestepped the scene as a result. Still, as much as I can believe large portions of Ecker's claims it could also be a case of the kettle calling the pot black, as we say round these here parts.

Audio download: http://www.theparacast.com/darkmatters/CooperShowFinish.mp3


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PostSubject: Re: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Sun 10 Jan 2010, 11:13 pm

I've always believed Cooper was nothing more than the earlier version of AJ, and that Cooper is probably still alive, as his death was faked as part of the plan to transfer audience to AJ.

It'll be interesting to listen to this audio. I'll post more comments, if I have anym after I listen.

Thanks for posting.
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PostSubject: Re: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Wed 20 Jan 2010, 8:04 am

I lose my cool when people talk about "the only real truther" Bill Cooper.

Bill Cooper is a fake for us as a $3 bill.

Consider this:

Bill Cooper was big-time ex-Naval Intelligence. Just about every fake truther out there is ex-military or ex-Jesuit or ex-CIA, etc. to give them street cred on being on the inside.

Bill Cooper claimed the moon rotates. Oh really? Then why do we never see the other side of the moon? In fact, no matter where you are in the world, we always see the precisely same image of the moon... big white space at the 4 o'clock position -- whether you're in China or Chicago. But that's a small point when you consider this:

Bill Cooper was connected to Timothy McVeigh (the alleged bomber involved in the OKC incident in 1995). Cooper actually claimed that he was approached by McVeigh and that him and "his followers" came to his house and told him they supported his work.

But here's the smoking gun of all smoking guns on Cooper...

.. Shortly after the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building, Rush Limbaugh read a White House memo on the air during his broadcast which named William Cooper, "...the most dangerous radio host in America". This may have been related to claims that Timothy McVeigh regularly listened to Cooper's radio program. Cooper considered President Bill Clinton's pronouncement the greatest compliment that he had ever received.

Why would President Clinton give Cooper street cred' if he was real? That's like Barrack Obama claiming me... Markus Allen is the most dangerous truther in America. It's never going to happen unless I was a fake and they wanted to shoot me to the top.

It's all staged. Bill Cooper is as real as Alan Watt. They both give us nuggets of truth, we latch on to them like heros, then they spin us into la la land...

... And Bill Cooper tried to spin us into la la land mentioning UFOs... remember that?

"In later years, Cooper recanted his UFO-oriented beliefs, asserting that they were in fact part of the Illuminati plot to subjugate the United States."

Give me a break. Total nonsense.

Yes, Bill Cooper calls Alex Jones a fake. And he's right... but so do other truthers. That doesn't make Bill Cooper real.

Take a listen to Bill Cooper's 9/11 broadcast. I listed to it and couldn't believe this was the same guy who "predicted 9/11"... his 9/11 broadcast makes Alex Jones look like a Jesuit choir boy... total scare mongering:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-239021567371363732&hl=en

"You can expect a nationwide declaration of Martial Law" says Cooper about 4 minutes into the audio. Oh really... it didn't happen. We've been fear mongered about widespread Martial Law since my dad was born. It never happens, yet Bill Cooper pushes this scare mongering endlessly.

"This is a major terrorist attack" he says 6 minutes in. No it wasn't, and he knew it... he's ex-Naval Intelligence and he had to know 9/11 was a military operation.

If 9/11 was a must be, why didn't Bill Cooper remind us that he predicted 9/11 months before hand and it was a false flag attack. Instead, he repeats what the corporate media scared us with.

"I expect Martial Law any minute" he repeats again more than 7 minutes in. More scare mongering. Martial Law was never declared.

Sprinkled throughout the broadcast Cooper begs us to give blood and participate in the elite's Masonic ritual nonsense.

"I don't want to hear any rumors" -- yet Cooper repeats what the lying corporate mainstream media says? What a joke.

I could go on and on.

Just listen to these 9/11 audios. He scares us for hours.

If Bill Cooper was real and Bill Cooper really predicted 9/11 months before hand, why wouldn't he calm us down? Instead, he parrots what the corporate media scares us with.

Give me a break.

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PostSubject: Re: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Thu 21 Jan 2010, 12:50 am

MarkusAllen wrote:
Bill Cooper was connected to Timothy McVeigh (the alleged bomber involved in the OKC incident in 1995). Cooper actually claimed that he was approached by McVeigh and that him and "his followers" came to his house and told him they supported his work.
I wonder if Bill was McVeigh's post-MONARCH handler?
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PostSubject: Re: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Mon 15 Feb 2010, 4:17 am

MarkusAllen wrote:


Bill Cooper claimed the moon rotates. Oh really? Then why do we never see the other side of the moon? In fact, no matter where you are in the world, we always see the precisely same image of the moon... big white space at the 4 o'clock position -- whether you're in China or Chicago. But that's a small point when you consider this:

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments, but the moon does indeed rotate. The first link of a google search revealed this: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=142
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PostSubject: Re: "Bill Cooper was a total fraud," claims one his UFOlogy peers   Mon 15 Feb 2010, 4:45 am

youngbuck wrote:


I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments, but the moon does indeed rotate. The first link of a google search revealed this: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=142

That's interesting, thanks.
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