Calling Schiff Controlled Opposition Brings on Lifetime Bann

People getting banned for calling 'em like they see 'em...

Peter Schiff is FOR the War on Terror
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=224750



Nice to see people refusing to be bullied into the Simulacrum.

I cannot stand this guy! A complete fraud..

A disappointment waiting to happen. Yet most patriots will defend him, too bad they cant see through the facade.

Good morning,

I received a message from RevolutionSD and invited him over here.

Happy New Year, All.

Happy New Year to You too , Rama.

I certainly hope RevolutionSD decides to accept. The more the merrier (of HIS kind of person)!

oops, never mind.

It was the same thing the last time I got banned, by the same mod in fact. No warning, no infraction, just kicked to the curb.

But hey, that's the way the game is played.

I think there are still a lot of good people over there, but there does seem to be a growing number of people who don't care about much beyond winning elections. One wonders if experience will teach them anything.

CCTelander wrote:

It was the same thing the last time I got banned, by the same mod in fact.

You got banned by Msdoodahs?

It was Msdoodahs who also banned RevolutionSD?

Thought she was supposed to be a "good guy" -!??

ScoutsHonor wrote:

It was Msdoodahs who also banned RevolutionSD?

Thought she was supposed to be a "good guy" -!??

Hi SH!

Yes, LE indicated as such. I posted asking MsD a question as to why R_SD was banned and she chose to ignore it. Interesting action (the banning) coming from an admitted anarchist. Maybe the anarchist person controlling the account shift had ended and LE was covering...

ramallamamama wrote:

ScoutsHonor wrote:

It was Msdoodahs who also banned RevolutionSD?

Thought she was supposed to be a "good guy" -!??

Hi SH!

Yes, LE indicated as such. I posted asking MsD a question as to why R_SD was banned and she chose to ignore it. Interesting action (the banning) coming from an admitted anarchist. Maybe the anarchist person controlling the account shift had ended and LE was covering...

MsD and I are good friends. I'm really surprised by this. Lemme see what I can find out.

ramallamamama wrote:

ScoutsHonor wrote:

It was Msdoodahs who also banned RevolutionSD?

Thought she was supposed to be a "good guy" -!??

Hi SH!

Yes, LE indicated as such. I posted asking MsD a question as to why R_SD was banned and she chose to ignore it. Interesting action (the banning) coming from an admitted anarchist. Maybe the anarchist person controlling the account shift had ended and LE was covering...

Hi

Not sure what you mean (about the shift), but now I'm not sure we're seeing a true picture, including what LE's part in it is. Ignoring the question indicates to me that MsD doesn't have a legitimate answer. Maybe LLS will have some enlightenment.

Kraig wrote:

CCTelander wrote:

It was the same thing the last time I got banned, by the same mod in fact.

You got banned by Msdoodahs?

Yep, she hit me with a 3 day ban because I posted something that questioned the viability of electoral politics, and crticised RPF in general for never getting behind anything BUT electoral politics.

Here's what purportedly earned me the ban:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2331232&postcount=23

CCTelander wrote:

Kraig wrote:

CCTelander wrote:

It was the same thing the last time I got banned, by the same mod in fact.

You got banned by Msdoodahs?

Yep, she hit me with a 3 day ban because I posted something that questioned the viability of electoral politics, and crticised RPF in general for never getting behind anything BUT electoral politics.

Here's what purportedly earned me the ban:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2331232&postcount=23

That is just really strange because she seemed to be more sympathetic to anarchists if not one herself.

It's so absurd how they will say certain things shouldn't be said on certain (money bomb) days.

ScoutsHonor wrote:

ramallamamama wrote:

ScoutsHonor wrote:

It was Msdoodahs who also banned RevolutionSD?

Thought she was supposed to be a "good guy" -!??

Hi SH!

Yes, LE indicated as such. I posted asking MsD a question as to why R_SD was banned and she chose to ignore it. Interesting action (the banning) coming from an admitted anarchist. Maybe the anarchist person controlling the account shift had ended and LE was covering...

Hi

Not sure what you mean (about the shift), but now I'm not sure we're seeing a true picture, including what LE's part in it is. Ignoring the question indicates to me that MsD doesn't have a legitimate answer. Maybe LLS will have some enlightenment.

In my mind I have an image of some kind of massive op center with the evil LE directing the falling of the towers, er I mean running RPFs. By shift I meant when (cool) MsD is off work, LE says: "YOU over there, operative #19, log on as MsD and ban some critical thinkers!"

Kraig wrote:

CCTelander wrote:

Kraig wrote:

CCTelander wrote:

It was the same thing the last time I got banned, by the same mod in fact.

You got banned by Msdoodahs?

Yep, she hit me with a 3 day ban because I posted something that questioned the viability of electoral politics, and crticised RPF in general for never getting behind anything BUT electoral politics.

Here's what purportedly earned me the ban:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2331232&postcount=23

That is just really strange because she seemed to be more sympathetic to anarchists if not one herself.

It's so absurd how they will say certain things shouldn't be said on certain (money bomb) days.

She's on a huge antio-constitution, pro-ancap jag right now in a thread over there. She says she is an ancap, and that the constitution has utterly failed. Also that we'll never reclaim or establish liberty through the electoral process.

It's like she's 2 different people at different times. The only non-sinister thing I can come up with is that maybe she's uncosciously harder on ancaps so as not to appear to be showing favoritism. Who knows?

Overall, I just think the moderation over there is terrible. The place has becoame a haven for all types of "conservatives" but there's still an obvious undercurrent of hostility toward anyone who doesn't toe the conservative party line, especially if you're an ancap.

Just for the record, I do think MsD is probably among the best of the mods over there, however much or little that may be saying.

CCTelander wrote:

She's on a huge antio-constitution, pro-ancap jag right now in a thread over there. She says she is an ancap, and that the constitution has utterly failed. Also that we'll never reclaim or establish liberty through the electoral process.

I can't bear to read the thread, but someone who states that the US Constitution has failed likely has sinister intent. I agree that the electoral process is not the solution to our problems, for it's a moral dilemma within each of us (I've found that Jacques Ellul speaks to this quite clearly in his material - Ancaps should read his "Political Illusion"). But the Constitution has provided Americans with the greatest opportunities ever given to a mass of people, probably in the history of the planet. I don't believe that "it" has failed, I believe we have failed ourselves. But it's all correctable. People just have to see the ponerization and the simulacrum and refuse to participate any longer.

Anyway, RFP is a cointel OP, always has been. It's part of the bigger Libertarian vector that's been run by cointel for a long long time. The control systems are "Full Specrum".... which is probably the hardest thing for people to get a handle on.

You guys really give them a lot more credit than they deserve.

Part of the problem with RevSD was the title of the thread. People got all bent out of shape and flagged it-- and many other posts in the thread. Personally I didn't see anything there that would merit a ban but apparently mods have lists (real or figurative). RevSD has earned a reputation for criticizing 4approved candidates.

It's a fine line between criticizing candidates, where you do it, how you do it and especially WHEN you do it. That's what happened to CC. The question may have been valid but they don't want their projects being "bashed" (as LE would say). I got in trouble for that myself questioning Kokesh. I tried to explain to them that you need to let people ask questions and not get all flipped out defensive as if someone dared think about who they are being asked to support. Funny thing is I like him the best out of the big 3 and I think he's the only one who really has a chance at winning.

There are no shifts. That's part of the problem. And apparently LE is taking a break from modding. MsD goes in waves, she'll be on a lot and then not much at all. She doesn't read all the threads like LE does. If something is flagged she'll go check it out. The mods have their own forum where they discuss this type of thing.

Generally she does permabans and then sends a memo to Josh and Bryan to let them know she's cool with the ban being lifted. Not sure why she does it that way but it's how she's always done it.

Rama, I asked her if she saw your post and she had no idea what I was talking about. She never went back into that thread. I think you can consider this a response from her. Otherwise you should shoot her a pm or flag your question.

For future reference, make sure you flag posts which fall outside of the guidelines or which you want to be seen by a mod. You can write something in the report box. I used to hate flagging, I felt like a tattletale, but I find flagging LE's posts somewhat satisfying now.

Quite honestly the "leadership" over there have all had their problems with LE. Unfortunately she's the only one who can be on her computer at any given minute of the day and she's a volunteer. It's hard to get rid of people like that. I wouldn't bat an eyelash. She's in the center of a lot of problems, but Josh is young, LE is an older apparently disabled lady and having spoken to her on the phone before she's really good at talking in circles and isn't afraid to play the pity card when necessary.

MsD is an ancap. She's been one for a long time. And I think CC's right-- she may be tougher on the ancaps so she's not accused of favoritism. She was pretty timid about being open with it on the board before but we talked a LOT during the purge and she was really close to just walking away from the forum altogether. For her to come right out with it in that thread was a pretty big deal.

I think this misses the primary purpose of online forums, which is manipulate the people into thought-pens (ie. vectors), identify and dismiss "trouble-makers", "measure" public opinion (this is the feeback part of the control-feedback system), waste people's time on irrelevant discussion/projects and draw-out [financial] resources on worthless endeavors.

These forums are not stand-alone discrete online entities.... it is a network of forums and sites run by the same network of people behind the scenes (ie. handlers).

One cannot allow themselves to be drawn into the "personalities" of these 'people,' as it causes an emotional bond that results in the rationalization of their actions.

I'm curious if anyone here has actually met any of these people in person? Do we know anything that they say is true? Do we really konw where we live, whether or not they or physically disabled, what they really look like? In other words, can we validate our own assumptions in a satisfactory manner?

Thanks LLS.

Intuitively, I have to agree with IP. I see the way threads appear, specific moderation and user account steering of the themes. Polls. Timing. Bans. It's become obvious to me. The same thing happens at the prison planet forum and it's sister board, waronyou.

I, also, agree with IP.

The place is a Simulacrum.
Not a healthy place to be.

Does anyone here know of anyone who has actually met any of the people that we are discussing who are behind RPF? Do we really know anything about them?

It'd be interesting to research really old posts, back during the 08 primary when the board was in full swing campaigning mode. I seem to remember seeing posts made by different user accounts talking about being at this or that event together. I'd look at Josh and Brian's as well as LE and RPH's early posts, as far back as the board's inception.