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Subject: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Sun 06 Dec 2009, 2:00 pm
He's either a controlled vector or compartmentalized and oblivious, the info is good, but if one watches this and accepts it at face value they overlook everything else. Oh the irony, mind controllers discussing mind control with the mind controlled.
ScoutsHonor
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Sun 06 Dec 2009, 2:09 pm
Gonna watch this a little later, right now I'm workin' on watching The Dark Knight.
I'll say this: if Jesse's one of them and not a dupe, he falls into the "GREAT actor" category also, which StillTrying and I were discussing...Whew!
ScoutsHonor
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Mon 07 Dec 2009, 11:42 am
ramallamamama wrote:
He's either a controlled vector or compartmentalized and oblivious, the info is good, but if one watches this and accepts it at face value they overlook everything else. Oh the irony, mind controllers discussing mind control with the mind controlled.
FASCINATING video. Scary too, as it strongly hints at the power of this technology way beyond what they're showing us, such as the weather control, though that itself has immensely powerful applications, for good OR evil, and in this case, it isn't "good" that's in charge here -as we know. ELF waves, huh?! I have heard a lot about these. Sheesh, we are in for a wild ride, I have to conclude--at this point I'd start looking to a Much Higher Power, and I know you know what I mean.
Thanks for this post, Ramallama!
ArtificialThought
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Tue 08 Dec 2009, 2:34 am
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Scary too, as it strongly hints at the power of this technology way beyond what they're showing us
I think the point of the show is to get people to spook themselves precisely like that. At the same time, it can reinforce the meme of "conspiracy theory" (takes all the seriousness out of a subject) and also distract viewers from the real "conspiracies" (or deliberate plans for society beyond the public's awareness) like fabian socialist carbon tax-to-death nanny state agenda development.
Regarding HAARP, I am not going to feel intimidated by anything I either don't completely understand or haven't seen a first hand demonstration of. Besides, even if it can do something, the range is restricted to that location in the middle of nowhere. I don't think we'll see airplanes carrying billion-watt power stations any time soon, so there is no portability.
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Tue 08 Dec 2009, 6:30 am
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Scary too, as it strongly hints at the power of this technology way beyond what they're showing us
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I think the point of the show is to get people to spook themselves precisely like that. At the same time, it can reinforce the meme of "conspiracy theory" (takes all the seriousness out of a subject) and also distract viewers from the real "conspiracies" (or deliberate plans for society beyond the public's awareness) like fabian socialist carbon tax-to-death nanny state agenda development.
Very good points, AT. (Especially true is that I WAS intimidated -- and I thought I had become smarter than that......ha. But when you speak about the "carbon taxes" ("Breathe and we'll CHARGE you!") I can hardly contain my anger. Even dignifying such an absurd, outrageous proposal with discussion is very hard to tolerate... It's such an insult to our intelligence and an insult in so many other ways...and yet the public seems barely aware of how horrible this proposal is. It's because of the total stranglehold the major media has on this society--they do literally create a totally false reality, a totally false framework. What the hell are we to do about THAT? I guess one solution would be to find a way to disable ALL the TVs all across America...
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Regarding HAARP, I am not going to feel intimidated by anything I either don't completely understand or haven't seen a first hand demonstration of. Besides, even if it can do something, the range is restricted to that location in the middle of nowhere. I don't think we'll see airplanes carrying billion-watt power stations any time soon, so there is no portability.
Nor do I (g). I think there's a vast amount of "proof" to be had re the effectiveness of this technology; I'll research it again and forward what I think would be of interest to you.
Thanks for the post Ram. I wasn't aware of this show. It's at least the 4th or 5th done about HAARP in the MSM over the years. I've read that there are several HAARP sites now and more on the way. Their potential is scary since supposedly they can now triangulate between the various sites and hit areas far away from themselves, though as far as I know this is still just rumor. The most scary thing to me is that they apparently do damage to the ionosphere every time they fire it up.
I think this show is designed to do at least two things. 1) It scares people who will believe this tech exists and may be used in a malevolent way. 2) It creates division between the first group and others who will not believe the tech is as powerful as they say, or will not believe it would ever be used in a malevolent way.
Two sides of the same coin used for the same goal, it keeps people afraid and unable to rebel out of fear and it keeps people arguing with each other which also leaves them unable to unite and effectively rebel. The division also compliments the fear because those who are afraid of it already will only become more fearful when their peers do not support them, leaving them feeling isolated and up against a massive government.
It didn't seem to expose anything new regarding HAARP.
Anyone who googles HAARP, will find a lot to be afraid of, sorry to say. Also, anyone who doesn't believe "it would ever be used in a malevolent way" hasn't been paying attention to the America of today.
Anyone who googles HAARP, will find a lot to be afraid of, sorry to say. Also, anyone who doesn't believe "it would ever be used in a malevolent way" hasn't been paying attention to the America of today.
LOTS of people haven't been paying attention though. Too many people would rather get a good laugh over a tin foil hat joke than take this seriously.
Anyone who googles HAARP, will find a lot to be afraid of, sorry to say. Also, anyone who doesn't believe "it would ever be used in a malevolent way" hasn't been paying attention to the America of today.
LOTS of people haven't been paying attention though. Too many people would rather get a good laugh over a tin foil hat joke than take this seriously.
True. Those folks ain't living in reality, though, and the laugh will likely be on them. IOW, they are, to put it bluntly, intellectual idiots. And you kin quote me.
ArtificialThought
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Thu 10 Dec 2009, 2:57 am
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Anyone who googles HAARP, will find a lot to be afraid of
This sentence wording acts to generate fear with it's if-then logical structure. (If I google, then I will be afraid.) I'm not sure if this is the best approach to go about things in terms of personal improvement and learning (although it is useful in attracting audiences, offering solutions, and selling things).
Anyone who googles HAARP, will find a lot to be afraid of
This sentence wording acts to generate fear with it's if-then logical structure. (If I google, then I will be afraid.) I'm not sure if this is the best approach to go about things in terms of personal improvement and learning (although it is useful in attracting audiences, offering solutions, and selling things).
For some more-or-less asleep Americans, a little fear might be a salutary thing. :-) [Ahem]
ArtificialThought
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Fri 11 Dec 2009, 2:47 am
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For some more-or-less asleep Americans, a little fear might be a salutary thing. :-)
Well, if you put it that way -- agreed! It's a stage one has to go through in the course of waking up.
ArtificialThought
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Fri 11 Dec 2009, 3:48 am
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For some more-or-less asleep Americans, a little fear might be a salutary thing. :-)
And yet part of me also feels that I'm not one to decide what is and what is not good for other Americans.
For some more-or-less asleep Americans, a little fear might be a salutary thing. :-)
And yet part of me also feels that I'm not one to decide what is and what is not good for other Americans.
I understand what you mean. There's a fine line between "laissez-faire" and "indifference"...sometimes it's hard to find it.
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Subject: Re: Ventura's Latest Propaganda Piece Fri 18 Dec 2009, 2:05 am
He did a new one on climate change, here's my little rant from FB:
Global Warming Conspiracy - Jesse Ventura
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I just watched the series and did not keep notes. TV will rot your brain. TPTB don't let anything out mainstream unless it is to manipulate the masses. The social engineers are experts, they have been doing this for awhile. Oh, they are getting us to choose sides? Who'da thought? Divide and conquer anyone?
They are charging forward with their Old World Order agenda one way or another. Oh and having Jones in it sealed the deal. Why do TPTB hate conspiracy researchers so much? Believe the opposite. Distrust authority.
It's gotten the same response as the news piece I posted documenting US soldier suicides being higher than KIAs this year. Nada.
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...ha. But when you speak about the "carbon taxes" ("Breathe and we'll CHARGE you!") I can hardly contain my anger. Even dignifying such an absurd, outrageous proposal with discussion is very hard to tolerate... It's such an insult to our intelligence and an insult in so many other ways...and yet the public seems barely aware of how horrible this proposal is. It's because of the total stranglehold the major media has on this society--they do literally create a totally false reality, a totally false framework. What the hell are we to do about THAT? I guess one solution would be to find a way to disable ALL the TVs all across America...
