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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Tue 01 Dec 2009, 9:04 pm | |
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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Wed 02 Dec 2009, 12:06 am | |
| Beautiful, thanks Ronne and IP!
Enjoy friends, this series was a real eye opener. I asked that these films be posted because I saw so much revision going on in the media with regard to the Ft Hood and Seattle shootings. |
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ScoutsHonor

Posts: 1126 Join date: 2009-10-20
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Thu 03 Dec 2009, 4:29 pm | |
| Thanks very much, Ramallama! |
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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Fri 04 Dec 2009, 1:43 am | |
| | ScoutsHonor wrote: | | Thanks very much, Ramallama! |
You're welcome.
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Clairvoyant
Posts: 216 Join date: 2009-11-19
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Fri 04 Dec 2009, 8:48 am | |
| Looking forward to watching this when I get home today... |
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C1 Admin

Posts: 1244 Join date: 2009-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Fri 04 Dec 2009, 1:10 pm | |
| That creep Jim Jones, of Jonestown, was in the San Francisco Bay area (before he moved his cult) chatting-up all the local politicians and funding big extravagant events. He was obviously backed by military-intelligence sources to have that level of impact. |
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C1 Admin

Posts: 1244 Join date: 2009-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Fri 04 Dec 2009, 1:12 pm | |
| Robert Pastor, Carter Election Commission & Jonestown
Robert Pastor was Executive Director of the Carter-Baker Commission to investigate the 2004 US Presidential election. Prior to this, Pastor was the NSC's staff coordinator for Latin American under Carter during the Jonestown mass "suicide" ....
"The direct orders to cover up the cause of death came from the top levels of the American government. Zbigniew Brezezinsky delegated to Robert Pastor, and he in turn ordered Lt. Col. Gordon Sumner to strip the bodies of identity."
Children of Jonestown, pp. 196-7
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The order to remove the tags was issued by Robert Pastor, the National Security Council's staff coordinator for Latin American and Caribbean affairs. Asked about this, Pastor denies that he gave such an order, adding that it would have been senseless for him to have done so. He's right, of course, but the mystery remains: why were the tags removed?
"Cult of Death," 12/4/78, Newsweek |
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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 1:59 am | |
| Wow, great find, IP. Thanks for posting.
Zbig has his nasty psychopathic hands in violent death, everywhere.
As an aside, Ronne and I have been having a PM discussion about the Evidence series producer's other films and she suggested I drop him a line, inviting him to come here and join. I did, let's cross our fingers that he does. |
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Conspiratus
Posts: 25 Join date: 2009-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 10:55 am | |
| Thanks Ramallamamama for the invitation. I'll be happy to discuss whatever you like. You should know that there is also a part 6 to Evidence that I made last year. You can see it here:
and here at Veoh: where you can also see some of my other lessor movies.
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ScoutsHonor

Posts: 1126 Join date: 2009-10-20
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 11:36 am | |
| | Conspiratus wrote: | | Thanks Ramallamamama for the invitation. I'll be happy to discuss whatever you like. You should know that there is also a part 6 to Evidence that I made last year. |
Welcome! Thanks for the great series, and glad you've joined up.
Talk to you later 
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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 1:13 pm | |
| | Conspiratus wrote: | | Thanks Ramallamamama for the invitation. I'll be happy to discuss whatever you like. You should know that there is also a part 6 to Evidence that I made last year. |
Welcome Conspiritus!
Lessor movies! Give me a break! You are an artist, my friend. Evidence of Revision is a masterpiece, it contributed much to 'waking me up'.
I'm having difficulty posting links to your pieces, though Ronne has links to Your Great Depression, CIA and GM productions. Thanks for the link to Evidence 6.
Are you currently working on anything, or do you feel like because we're just seeing events repeat themselves, over and over, with specific content added to templates etc., your work is done?
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Conspiratus
Posts: 25 Join date: 2009-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 6:32 pm | |
| Thanks for the kind words. Sacrificed many years to the projects and it helps much to know they are appreciated. Not sure which flicks you are referring to there. I've posted many films to the Net, most notably around 70 movies to The Documentary Film Network, but only a few are mine. If you see Conspiratus or Etymon Prod. in the film, then it's one of mine. I've done 30 or more over the years I think, but only about half are online. The rest aren't worth much or can't be put up due to copyright infringement, etc. I did a good one on the POW/MIA issue a few years ago, but embarrassingly lost all copies of it. Haven't done anything since part 6 and am not working on anything currently. I'm a bit burned out on it, though I may do more if I get passionate about it again and have some funds. Collecting material for a project can be expensive and I'm disabled and poor these days, just surviving on Social Security I'm afraid.
Actually I originally envisioned Evidence of Revision as a 30 or more part series covering much much more than it does in it's present form. An artifact from the original effort can be seen at The Doc. Film Net. It is entitled TWA 800 Evidence of a Lie, (or something like that). Unfortunately, life intervened and it ended up as you see. |
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C1 Admin

Posts: 1244 Join date: 2009-10-19
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Sat 05 Dec 2009, 9:48 pm | |
| I watched most of the first 5 parts about a year ago or so, but now that we have a little bit of your attention, I'll rewatch the series, and view part 6, over the next weeks and post here as I have questions or comments.
Thanks again for making yourself available for discussion. |
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incognito

Posts: 778 Join date: 2009-10-20 Location: in the rainforest
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Mon 07 Dec 2009, 12:54 am | |
| | Conspiratus wrote: | Thanks for the kind words. Sacrificed many years to the projects and it helps much to know they are appreciated. Not sure which flicks you are referring to there. I've posted many films to the Net, most notably around 70 movies to The Documentary Film Network, but only a few are mine. If you see Conspiratus or Etymon Prod. in the film, then it's one of mine. I've done 30 or more over the years I think, but only about half are online. The rest aren't worth much or can't be put up due to copyright infringement, etc. I did a good one on the POW/MIA issue a few years ago, but embarrassingly lost all copies of it. Haven't done anything since part 6 and am not working on anything currently. I'm a bit burned out on it, though I may do more if I get passionate about it again and have some funds. Collecting material for a project can be expensive and I'm disabled and poor these days, just surviving on Social Security I'm afraid.
Actually I originally envisioned Evidence of Revision as a 30 or more part series covering much much more than it does in it's present form. An artifact from the original effort can be seen at The Doc. Film Net. It is entitled TWA 800 Evidence of a Lie, (or something like that). Unfortunately, life intervened and it ended up as you see. |
Thanks for your considerable effort. I'm going to re watch (again) the series and come up with a few questions also. |
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Clairvoyant
Posts: 216 Join date: 2009-11-19
 | Subject: Re: Evidence of Revision (parts 1 - 5) Mon 07 Dec 2009, 10:49 am | |
| Well I have only watched part 1 so far and I was blown away by it. What I am blown away by is how people even fell for the Kennedy assassination! They never give a good explanation as to why they "knew" Oswald did it and when they detectives are being interviewed they are really just very bad liars. The whole thing seemed to be so haphazardly covered up I don't think they would be able to get away with it today with the internet and everything else, they are definitely more sophisticated with their mass lies now than they were then.
It seems like when a "tragedy" like this happens people are so desperate for an official explanation that the will knowingly swallow bullshit just to pacify their emotions. I am having a hard time understanding how people fell for this outside of that.
I'm pretty sure you even hear Oswald say "I'm just a patsy" as he is being herded through the crowd. Then he dies before being given a real trial let alone an interview and the detectives were never clear as to why they even thought he did it. The on top of that you have the other issues like the shells not matching the gun, most of the armed guard standing down, etc.
How the hell can people fall for this? How the hell can they not raise an eyebrow? How the hell can people repeat "Oswald killed Kennedy" like they do? |
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